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Do any of you have 'I' friends (instead of 'E') and wonder how to draw them out of their shells a little? I have an 'I' friend visiting right now, and it's hard to bring her into my world because it drains her to be around so many whacko, friendly, talkative people.
Help!
Help!
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Re: The "I" Problem
Thu, July 8, 2004 - 4:02 PMthe best way to get an I person going is to dig a little find out what is clicking upstairs and then stimulatee convesations about that . Usually that will do the trick !! Once you find convos that they feel safe talking about or secure with you can get any ball rolling . -
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Re: The "I" Problem
Fri, July 9, 2004 - 10:43 PMLOL!
We're doing good so far, I've just accepted that her energy levels are really low at the end of the evening.
Anyone wanna come hang out with us tonight? We're heading to the Albatross in Berkeley! -
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Re: The "I" Problem
Sat, July 10, 2004 - 10:51 AM"I" people are easily over stimulated (where as we are easily understimulated) so work back from there. I know this battle well and I have had to learn that they are different, not less than me... arrggg but they can be frustrating when you like them and want to get to know that is a huge hurry. -
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Re: The "I" Problem
Sat, July 14, 2007 - 9:15 PMI's are not necessarily "easily overstimulated" - I think introverts require a different (more internal) kind of stimulation than extraverts. I go out to recharge and my partner (INTP) stays in.
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Re: The "I" Problem
Mon, July 12, 2004 - 3:40 PMAccepting and giving "I"'s there space is important, as important as socializing is for us "E"s! -
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Re: The "I" Problem
Wed, July 14, 2004 - 7:26 AMI love I's. They're so deep and slow... so erotic. Plus because they're not the social butterflies that we are, they'll give LOTS of attention, emotional and intellectual, in deep bursts that balance me out soooo well. I tend to be ON all the time, and they help me balance out, being Yin/Yang, On/Off all the time. It seems to me that I's have deeper, more interspersed periods of On, then off, while I tend to be a more concentrated form all the time. -
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Re: The "I" Problem
Thu, July 15, 2004 - 1:02 PMAcceptance, the final solution. -
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Re: The "I" Problem
Sun, July 18, 2004 - 6:02 PM" Acceptance, the final solution."
I do accept, I was just looking for a way to include her in my life while she was here. There's a lot going on, and I know it can be kind of overwhelming sometimes!
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Re: The "I" Problem
Wed, August 3, 2005 - 5:43 PMits true, im an I, i would know
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Re: The "I" Problem
Fri, February 24, 2006 - 4:23 AMI had to revive this thread because, at certain times my own scores can either be "E" or "I", so...
From my own inclinations, and observing many introverted friends, I've found the best way to deal with someone introverted is by simply leaving them alone and going on to do your own thing while giving that person time to recharge his or her virtual batteries.
No need to enterain or look after and "I" all the time--they need more alone and downtime, so don't feel guilty about just leaving them to their own devices from time to time! -
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Re: The "I" Problem
Sun, May 7, 2006 - 6:04 AMI am an INFJ and I lived with an ENTP for two years and was always amazed over why it was so importent for him too take me with him when he wanted to go out and meet his friends, because I did not enjoy going out as often as he did and had often told him that. I have though never connected as well with any other person as I did with him. There were just a few minor details where we dissagred and in hindsight, after 4 year realationship whit an ISFP that is now over, I see that there were no real problems in my realationship whit the ENTP, he was always really interesting to me, treated me with great respect and was always willing and able to talk things through, whether it was personal or on any other subject. With all that we could be having a great realationship still to day if I had not been very unmatured and my self esteem had been better at that time. I hear from him every now and again though there are eight years since we lived together. I also think that I learned alot from him, for example how fun it can be to spend a good time with a group of friends every now and again. I really missed that in my last realationship whit the intovert but being an introvert my self I always fail in trying to build a group of friends my self because I have not got the skill to maintain my relationship with friends who are not determined them self to keep in thouch with me back, and I greatly appreciate my friend who are extroverts and keep a place for me in there life though I need a little alone time every now and again.
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Re: The "I" Problem
Tue, August 29, 2006 - 6:00 AMok....listen VEEEERY carefully.
do not...I repete do not poke the intraverts!!!!!
they are not guarding some secret treasure!
They are not quiet because they "Know somthing " you don't.
They are just like ANGRY little turtles, got it? TURTLES!! and they will snap your fingers right OFF if you try to pull them out of their shells!
Take it from the fingerless man here who finaly succeeded in getting to the root of it.
the only thing they are hiding...is that they want to be left alone!...but still require human companionship, and left to their owndevices will NEVER DO ANYTHING TO SATISFY THAT NEED.
instead they just wait like angry little turtles...for some poor bastard (ess) to try and pull em out....I say FORget em!
I won't do it again...not ever!hA! -
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Re: The "I" Problem
Sun, September 17, 2006 - 8:56 AMThe advice to not poke the introverts is very astute. I happen to be an INTJ. I realize that much of what I say here is probably more attributed to my INTJ qualities, than just the "I." People often try to pull me into social situations. I will attempt to decline in a nice way, but if the person doesn't let it go, I will likely be abrupt. I percieve the repeated attempts to pull me into larger social situations as disrespect. The person should have heard my "no" the first time.
Though I enjoy socializing on occasion, my preference is to socialize with one person at a time. I'd rather go to the dentist than have to engage in small talk. I don't enjoy groups for the purpose of socializing. I love groups if there is a task at hand or a need for brainstorming. But I see no purpose in socializing for socializing's sake. I think the biggest mistake is intrepreting an introvert's introvertedness as wanting to be involved and not knowing how. We simply don't want to be involved. So please don't poke the introverts.
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Re: The "I" Problem
Fri, November 23, 2007 - 7:48 PMAngry!? No, not really. And actually quite social. I just haven't the time or energy to sit around gossiping and/or talking about things with people who just want to talk and do nothing. I don't want to talk about a sporting event I want to participate. I don't want watch a porno movie, I'd rather make one. I haven't the ability to listen to people complain about the same situation repeatedly. It's not that we think we know more than anyone else; it is that when know something we're confident in our knowing.
...so when I politely excuse myself from a conversaton, usually because it's become repetitive and boring, please don't follow me because you think I desire company, I'm usually trying to escape a vacuous situation. Please do not continue to blather to me, I have left the situation, I'm finished, and if you continue to blather I will likely tell you how absurd I think you're being and I will not be polite.
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Re: The "I" Problem
Sat, January 13, 2007 - 7:14 PMFrom my experience a INTP would be happiest if you left them alone in their shell.
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Re: The "I" Problem
Thu, January 3, 2008 - 3:45 AMI used to be an "I" (now ENTP) and i dont believe that "I's" really "want" to be socially isolated. They can be very socially engaging and they can actually ENJOY being socially engaging as well. The problem is not the "I" but the thing that causes the "I" which is a lack of confidence. The "I" person may appear to dislike social intercourse when really they do not feel comfortable in the given situation. When they achieve a level of confidence however, they become little mingling butterfly's, - not necessarily extroverts mind you - but butterfly's nonetheless. ; )
(to draw an "I" out of his shell, make him feel good about himself just the way he is and he will naturally do the rest, prepare to be amazed.) -
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Re: The "I" Problem
Sun, February 3, 2008 - 10:39 AM"to draw an "I" out of his shell, make him feel good about himself just the way he is and he will naturally do the rest, prepare to be amazed"
I would agree with this. The E personalities seem to be ok with who they are. The I personalities seem to need some external validation first. -
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Re: The "I" Problem
Fri, April 17, 2009 - 9:09 AM" "to draw an "I" out of his shell, make him feel good about himself just the way he is and he will naturally do the rest, prepare to be amazed"
I would agree with this. The E personalities seem to be ok with who they are. The I personalities seem to need some external validation first."
Extaverted people often make this assumption about introverted people. Extraverts often mistake someone who is being quiet with someone who is being shy. As an Introverted person, I can tell you that nothing is further from the truth. I actually enjoy listening to what other people are saying, and being flamboyant or overly talkative is not something that comes naturally to me. I only feel the need to say something if it actually needs to be said, and I find waffling on unecessarily pointless and annoying. You should understand this if you want to deal with introverts and not get them on the back foot immediately. It is possible to be quiet and confident at the same time.
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